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Most people who are selling their mineral rights this is a once-in-a-lifetime transaction. The people who are buying the landmen who are coming in do it every day. So there's a little inequity there about knowledge.

Perhaps one of the most important things you can do for human beings is wean them off an animal-based diet. It hardens the arteries and runs up our health-care costs. The last thing a poor person can afford is a heart attack or cancer or a stroke. And that's all linked to a meat-based diet. I think animal liberation is human liberation.